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General => Battlefield 4 => Topic started by: Innate on April 17, 2014, 11:46:17 am

Title: Server Map List Discussion
Post by: Innate on April 17, 2014, 11:46:17 am
With Naval Strike now public, anyone want to talk about a new map list?

Here is a rotation i came up with, trying to give a nice balance of heavy vehicle, semi-vehicle, and infantry maps.  If we run these types of maps too close together we lose the part of the server population, so i think balance is needed.  Also stacking the most popular BF4 maps at the front so it's easier to initially pop the server (using data from the top 15 servers (http://www.gametracker.com/search/bf4/US/?searchipp=15&sort=rank_world&order=ASC)).


64-rotation:

Zavod 311 (sv)
Siege of Shanghai (hv)
Guilin Peaks (if)
Flood Zone (sv)
Golmud Railway (hv)
Caspian (sv)
Operation Locker (if)
Dawnbreaker (sv)
Nansha Strike (hv)
Operation Mortar (hv)
Paracel Storm (sv)
Oman (hv)
Firestorm (hv)
Wave Breaker (if)
Lancang Dam  (sv)
Lost Islands (hv)


I think the 32-rotation could be the same but with Metro tossed in towards the front. 

I left out Resort, Dragon Pass, Silk Road, and probably another, fuck those maps  :)  Although Silk Road might be good for the 32-roation.
Title: Re: Server Map List Discussion
Post by: Whiskey on April 17, 2014, 12:56:35 pm
I like... what do you think about putting the most popular maps closer to the beginning, and than also staggering them throughout to get the players to pop the server. my thoughts are that summer is coming and it may be difficult to get enough players to populate the 64 map rotation..
Title: Re: Server Map List Discussion
Post by: Innate on April 17, 2014, 12:59:01 pm
I like... what do you think about putting the most popular maps closer to the beginning, and than also staggering them throughout to get the players to pop the server. my thoughts are that summer is coming and it may be difficult to get enough players to populate the 64 map rotation..

Not a bad idea at all!  I didn't think about that.  I would vote Zavod, Siege, and Peaks get sprinkled throughout.
Title: Re: Server Map List Discussion
Post by: Whiskey on April 17, 2014, 01:13:54 pm
Sounds good to me. A part of me thinks adding some Metro mayhem in there as well, but with Locker i think that'll still get us enough players.

Also, once last thought, how easy would it be to  have maps with spread out flags (Parcel Storm) every other map in the rotation, and separated by some close quarter maps (locker, or Metro for example). Some maps, not all, but lost islands for starters, do not flow, and i think apart of it has to do with how long it takes to get from one flag to another. so limiting these maps back to back could help us keep players for longer.

Let me know what the thought of the community are, i may be way of base... only had 2 coffees today.
Title: Re: Server Map List Discussion
Post by: maxglass on April 17, 2014, 01:16:08 pm
If you add metro Ill have to bang my head on the table. please don't.
Max
Title: Re: Server Map List Discussion
Post by: Innate on April 17, 2014, 01:54:58 pm
Also, once last thought, how easy would it be to  have maps with spread out flags (Parcel Storm) every other map in the rotation, and separated by some close quarter maps (locker, or Metro for example). Some maps, not all, but lost islands for starters, do not flow, and i think apart of it has to do with how long it takes to get from one flag to another. so limiting these maps back to back could help us keep players for longer.

Good idea again.  Feel free to create your own version of the list and post it.  Or i'll do it, when more peeps chime in.  We'll probably do a vote eventually, if there are conflicting preferences. 
Title: Re: Server Map List Discussion
Post by: KILLA BIGGD on April 17, 2014, 02:19:54 pm
So far good ideas.......I like the different types spread out and staggering.
Title: Re: Server Map List Discussion
Post by: strongbeer on April 17, 2014, 02:32:36 pm
sounds good ! :)
Title: Re: Server Map List Discussion
Post by: Whiskey on April 17, 2014, 02:57:10 pm
So we may need a vote to add metro, I know i have some love-hate for it, and i know others feel the same. i think we should plan a 32 player rotation, as this should give us a good base, here is what i was thinking (a few mods to Innates suggestion):

Zavod 311 (sv)
Caspian (sv)
Guilin Peaks (if)
Golmud Railway (hv)
Flood Zone (sv)
Siege
Operation Locker (if)
Guilin Peaks (if)
Dawnbreaker (sv)
Zavod 311 (sv) < -- back to back tight quarters
Nansha Strike (hv)
Operation Mortar (hv)
Lancang Dam  (sv)
Wave Breaker (if)
Paracel Storm (sv)
Rogue Transmission <- new addition... not a bad 32 player map
Oman (hv)
Operation Locker (if)
Wave Breaker (if) < -- back to back tight quarters (also a crowd pleaser)
Firestorm (hv)
Zavod 311 (sv)
Metro <  - Vote Permitting (also a crowd pleaser)
Lost Islands (hv)

Here is a rough idea... I've only played a few times on dawn breaker, but if memory serves it’s a good tight 32 player map. Range can be excluded, as it also has the worst flow of all maps in my opinion. Siege is another map that can be love-hate, so we could shove that map anywhere in the rotation, along with metro of course.
Title: Re: Server Map List Discussion
Post by: Whiskey on April 17, 2014, 02:59:25 pm
May need to break up the NS stuff on my suggestion...
Title: Re: Server Map List Discussion
Post by: Cornholeo on April 17, 2014, 03:16:10 pm
Thanks for taking the lead on this. I will play whatever you guys want in there, as long as my brothers are playing it's good by me. With that said:

1. Rouge was not one of my favorite maps.
2. Metro is fine by me. We have regular ticket counts so map will go quick.

As long as it's supported by the group AND it will populate the server, let me know what to setup.
Title: Re: Server Map List Discussion
Post by: RogueDaWarrior on April 17, 2014, 08:18:55 pm
I can't believe that nobody wants to run Metro 24/7!!   :o
Anyway, I like the map list as posted so far (less Metro).  My only suggestion would be to run the maps in a series of HV, the SV then IF.  Maybe 3 of each.  That way it lets you get a feel of that type before you switch to the next series type.
The only way to see how people respond and populate the server is to try this and then fine tune it as we go.  :)
Title: Re: Server Map List Discussion
Post by: maxglass on April 17, 2014, 09:09:58 pm
I like the list so far (-metro). not crazy about Guilian either, but o well. Although I don't like metro I'm only one and will play it if you all are on.
Max
Title: Re: Server Map List Discussion
Post by: Innate on April 18, 2014, 04:08:44 pm
Okay, here is a revised rotation.  Similar rotations for both 32 and 64.  I designated maps that are only for the 32 rotation.

Zavod 311 (sv)
Siege of Shanghai (hv)
Caspian (sv)
Guilin Peaks (if)
Metro (if) (32 only)
Flood Zone (sv)
Golmud Railway (hv)
Dawnbreaker (sv)
Zavod 311 (sv)
Metro (if) (32 only)
Wave Breaker (if)
Guilin Peaks (if)
Nansha Strike (hv)
Operation Mortar (hv)
Lancang Dam  (sv)
Wave Breaker (if)
Operation Locker (if)
Zavod 311 (sv)
Paracel Storm (sv)
Rogue Transmission (hv) (32 only)
Oman (hv)
Firestorm (hv)
Lost Islands (hv)


Zavod is very popular, and Metro is also popular so i will be good to sprinkle that at the top of the 32 rotation.   If nobody has any major issues with this rotation, i'll go ahead and have Corn set it up.
Title: Re: Server Map List Discussion
Post by: TheSkrapper on April 18, 2014, 05:40:49 pm
I am all for adding more maps.  Large Metro is pretty fun on low population maps with the side doors open.  It's when there are too many people that it becomes the explosive gauntlet.
Title: Re: Server Map List Discussion
Post by: Whiskey on April 18, 2014, 06:57:47 pm
This looks legit to me. Thanks for putting this together Innate.
Title: Re: Server Map List Discussion
Post by: Cornholeo on April 19, 2014, 06:02:02 am
Maps set in ProCon. There is a bug with Metro and Shanghi that I need to iron out as listing in Procon but I will test on next break.

I removed Parcel Storm out of 32 rotation as that map is huge for 32 as I remember it.
Title: Re: Server Map List Discussion
Post by: MMacone on April 19, 2014, 07:04:17 am
Lets do it.
Title: Re: Server Map List Discussion
Post by: Innate on April 19, 2014, 11:01:18 am
Thanks Corn! 
Title: Re: Server Map List Discussion
Post by: TheSkrapper on April 20, 2014, 02:01:37 pm
I am all for playing some of the older maps but I think having too many maps can hurt us in a few different ways.  One of which is complicating server upkeep.  Another is not catering to the new naval maps that draw people. 

I think we need to strip the list down some.  I was thinking something smaller like this.  Just 8 maps featuring all 4 naval and 4 others.   We could swap out Metro and Locker when we go large.

Thoughts?

Metro
Wave Breaker (naval)

Flood Zone
Lost Islands (naval)

Op Locker
Op Mortar (naval)

Guilin Peaks
Nansha Strike (naval)
Title: Re: Server Map List Discussion
Post by: Cornholeo on April 20, 2014, 05:32:16 pm
Agreed, I would suggest Zavod311 and Caspian 2014 as the substitutions in 64 mode.
Title: Re: Server Map List Discussion
Post by: Innate on April 20, 2014, 08:47:04 pm
Sounds good, let's give it a go.  :P
Title: Re: Server Map List Discussion
Post by: SolarofDeath on April 21, 2014, 12:37:30 pm
Okay, Corn has been busy with family being in town and also home projects.  He asked me to setup the server and Procon which I did today.  This is the rotation from start to finish

The Small Rotation         The Large Map Rotation
Metro                             Zavod
Wavebreaker                  Wavebreaker
Flood Zone                     Flood Zone
Lost Islands                    Lost Islands
Operation Lockers          Caspian Border
Operation Mortar           Operation Mortar
Guilin Peaks                   Guilin Peaks
Nansha Strike                Nansha Strike

If there are issues with it I apologize its been a little while since I have done server settings.  After doing it I once again found a new admiration for Corn because I had forgotten how tedious it can be setting both the server and ProCon.
Title: Re: Server Map List Discussion
Post by: MMacone on April 21, 2014, 03:02:57 pm
Good job!

Thanks Solar
Title: Re: Server Map List Discussion
Post by: Cornholeo on April 21, 2014, 07:29:39 pm
Thanks for getting that done Solar. Looks like people like it, 49 of 64 @10:30 with no BFS.
Title: Re: Server Map List Discussion
Post by: Innate on April 28, 2014, 09:09:32 am
I think we should replace Caspian in the large rotation.  I don't think the BF4 version is that popular, it plays pretty oddly and didn't populate much the other night.  Maybe replace it with one of these? 

Golmud Railway
Siege of Shanghai
Firestorm

Thoughts?
Title: Re: Server Map List Discussion
Post by: maxglass on April 28, 2014, 09:42:57 am
I like Golmud Railway, or Siege of Shanghai
MAx
Title: Re: Server Map List Discussion
Post by: Whiskey on April 28, 2014, 10:45:46 am
Gulmud all the way
Title: Re: Server Map List Discussion
Post by: S.Nordlund on April 28, 2014, 05:20:44 pm
karkand 24/7 i am sure it can get populated.
Title: Re: Server Map List Discussion
Post by: SolarofDeath on May 03, 2014, 11:47:30 am
I removed Caspian and put in Golmund
Title: Re: Server Map List Discussion
Post by: Whiskey on June 11, 2014, 10:12:01 am
Should we do some mixed mode in here as well? Rush, domination, conquest?
Title: Re: Server Map List Discussion
Post by: TheSkrapper on June 11, 2014, 01:39:44 pm
I would be up for a mix.  Obliteration is a fun fast paced mode.
Title: Re: Server Map List Discussion
Post by: Innate on June 11, 2014, 01:57:01 pm
as long as it fills the server, i'm down!  8)
Title: Re: Server Map List Discussion
Post by: RACERX79 on June 13, 2014, 03:57:04 am
Sounds good to me
Title: Re: Server Map List Discussion
Post by: SolarofDeath on June 17, 2014, 08:58:23 am
Let me know what maps and what modes.
Title: Re: Server Map List Discussion
Post by: Whiskey on June 17, 2014, 01:18:14 pm
I think we should keep our current conquest rotation and mix some mix mode into them. These are the ones I've played and enjoyed, so i'm bias. So ill let Skrapper, and Innate throw some ideas in here as well.

Small Rotation Rush:
Wavebreaker
Lost Islands
Operation Mortar
Golmund
Dragon Pass

Large Rotation obliteration/rush
Guilin Peaks
Nansha Strike
Dragon Pass - Rush
Title: Re: Server Map List Discussion
Post by: Innate on June 17, 2014, 02:23:43 pm
Those look good to me man, i came up with some quick rotations, combining what we currently have with your suggestions.  I did this quick. 

Please feel free to re-order them and post your own rotations!


The Small Rotation
Metro CQ
Wavebreaker CQ
Lost Islands Rush
Flood Zone CQ
Operation Mortar Rush
Lost Islands CQ
Operation Lockers CQ
Wavebreaker Rush
Operation Mortar CQ
Golmund Rush
Guilin Peaks CQ
Dragon Pass Rush
Nansha Strike CQ


The Large Map Rotation
Zavod CQ
Guilin Peaks Rush
Wavebreaker CQ
Guilin Peaks Ob
Flood Zone CQ
Nansha Strike  Rush
Lost Islands CQ
Golmund CQ
Nansha Strike Ob
Operation Mortar CQ
Dragon Pass Rush
Guilin Peaks CQ
Dragon Pass Ob
Nansha Strike CQ
Title: Re: Server Map List Discussion
Post by: Cornholeo on June 17, 2014, 03:22:49 pm
Thanks Innate!
Title: Re: Server Map List Discussion
Post by: SolarofDeath on June 19, 2014, 06:51:19 am
+100 for Whiskey's avatar
Title: Re: Server Map List Discussion
Post by: TheSkrapper on June 20, 2014, 09:30:06 am
Innates rotation looks OK except there needs to be some Ob in the small rotation.
Title: Re: Server Map List Discussion
Post by: Innate on June 20, 2014, 09:38:55 am
Innates rotation looks OK except there needs to be some Ob in the small rotation.

Good idea, which maps do you like for small OB?  I'm not that familiar with the mode. 
Title: Re: Server Map List Discussion
Post by: Innate on July 27, 2014, 08:10:29 am
What do you guys think of adding Peaks, Locker, and Zavod to the current new map rotation, just sprinkled in to mix it up a bit.
Title: Re: Server Map List Discussion
Post by: Whiskey on July 27, 2014, 08:23:39 am
yeah, sounds good. maybe Flood zone, or to similar to pearl market?
Title: Re: Server Map List Discussion
Post by: Innate on July 27, 2014, 11:12:20 am
I like flood zone personally but it never seems to pop the server.
Title: Re: Server Map List Discussion
Post by: Cornholeo on July 27, 2014, 05:20:30 pm
I'm good with adding peaks, locker, and Zavod311.  We could place them in between current maps. I will add them on the mid shift tonight.
Title: Re: Server Map List Discussion
Post by: Cornholeo on July 28, 2014, 03:16:58 am
Updated. We need to watch this closely. If any of these maps dumps people we need to yank in ASAP. We have several admins with access to the plugins. The map manager just has to be turned OFF before it can be altered.
Title: Re: Server Map List Discussion
Post by: Innate on July 28, 2014, 08:14:39 am
Thanks Corn! We'll see how it does.
Title: Re: Server Map List Discussion
Post by: Innate on July 31, 2014, 08:29:04 am
Haven't seen the server full since we added in the older maps to the rotation.  Perhaps we should just run the 4 new ones.  :-\
Title: Re: Server Map List Discussion
Post by: Cornholeo on July 31, 2014, 03:10:05 pm
Ok I will pull them back out. I like the other ones but people seem to like the expansion.
Title: Re: Server Map List Discussion
Post by: Innate on July 31, 2014, 03:12:10 pm
Thanks Corn
Title: Re: Server Map List Discussion
Post by: Cornholeo on July 31, 2014, 03:16:42 pm
Ok done brother and no problem. If, and we will, get tired of the maps, get the server running and go pub like we have been doing. That shit has been a blast!
Title: Re: Server Map List Discussion
Post by: Innate on July 31, 2014, 03:20:52 pm
Yea, i agree, sucks pubs don't like anything but the new shit.